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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Hawk,

Thank you for your comments and sharing your experience. The post was written more than a year ago and since then, I have developed greater insights.  For a start, I would like to believe that we are evaluating things based on what has happened for us. 

I see the ego is a learning tool. I don&#039;t necessarily &quot;defend&quot; myself from my ego.  If you have read one of my newer posts, you would realize that I have recently chosen to face my shadow.  

I can relate to what you said &quot;Sure their vision is short-sighted, selfish even but some of their actions can lead to greater good both intentionally and unintentionally&quot;.  Still, it does not take away the fact that the ego is involved.  There is the risk of spiritual ego, for instance, for those who call themselves &quot;lightworkers&quot;.

The idea is not to get rid of the ego but to use it well.  We allow ourselves to be led by our higher selves rather than let our egos.  It is true that the ego can help to defend, shield and protect ourselves.  We acknowledge its help but also understand that there may come a time, when it no longer serves us in the situation where it is in control. 
 
I have an idea of what you mean by &quot;fracture my ego&quot; and the possibility of staying lost after losing yourself.  I don&#039;t disagree.  Based on my personal experiences, I would also recommend that anyone who decides to delve into the psyche be skilled enough or have proper guidance.  

Your comments have been extremely helpful for me. If you would like to discuss this further, do email to me directly. 


Take care,
Evelyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Hawk,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments and sharing your experience. The post was written more than a year ago and since then, I have developed greater insights.  For a start, I would like to believe that we are evaluating things based on what has happened for us. </p>
<p>I see the ego is a learning tool. I don&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;defend&#8221; myself from my ego.  If you have read one of my newer posts, you would realize that I have recently chosen to face my shadow.  </p>
<p>I can relate to what you said &#8220;Sure their vision is short-sighted, selfish even but some of their actions can lead to greater good both intentionally and unintentionally&#8221;.  Still, it does not take away the fact that the ego is involved.  There is the risk of spiritual ego, for instance, for those who call themselves &#8220;lightworkers&#8221;.</p>
<p>The idea is not to get rid of the ego but to use it well.  We allow ourselves to be led by our higher selves rather than let our egos.  It is true that the ego can help to defend, shield and protect ourselves.  We acknowledge its help but also understand that there may come a time, when it no longer serves us in the situation where it is in control. </p>
<p>I have an idea of what you mean by &#8220;fracture my ego&#8221; and the possibility of staying lost after losing yourself.  I don&#8217;t disagree.  Based on my personal experiences, I would also recommend that anyone who decides to delve into the psyche be skilled enough or have proper guidance.  </p>
<p>Your comments have been extremely helpful for me. If you would like to discuss this further, do email to me directly. </p>
<p>Take care,<br />
Evelyn</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8 yrs ago. This was exactly what I thought. But to my horror, I discovered the ego is more than that.
One of your commentors stated that egos feed off each other. She&#039;s right.
The ego isn&#039;t just the form identity.
Yeah you&#039;re right. It certainly is but it&#039;s more than that much more.
I weakened my ego thinking that growth would ensue. but all i did was fracture my psyche.

The ego is a shield. 
It defends you from the egos of others. The vast majority of people you deal with a are immature, and will unconscious steal &#039;energy&#039; from you.
You also defend yourself form your own shadow, animus and external entities of a more shall we say, &#039;ethereal&#039; nature.
Even a false belief in yourself or sheer disbelief in the existence of something weakens it, if you&#039;re pig-headed enough.

The ego serves to focus will. Some of the egoistic people may demonstrate all the symptoms you mentioned as form-identity but its precisely that which allows them to accomplish incredible things. Sure their vision is short-sighted, selfish even but some of their actions can lead to greater good both intentionally and unintentionally.

A weakened ego, will only lead to depression.
I do not disagree that there MUST be transformation from an unaware ego state to a true self state and a transcendent state beyond but there is significant risk and truth in that you can stay lost if you lose yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8 yrs ago. This was exactly what I thought. But to my horror, I discovered the ego is more than that.<br />
One of your commentors stated that egos feed off each other. She&#8217;s right.<br />
The ego isn&#8217;t just the form identity.<br />
Yeah you&#8217;re right. It certainly is but it&#8217;s more than that much more.<br />
I weakened my ego thinking that growth would ensue. but all i did was fracture my psyche.</p>
<p>The ego is a shield.<br />
It defends you from the egos of others. The vast majority of people you deal with a are immature, and will unconscious steal &#8216;energy&#8217; from you.<br />
You also defend yourself form your own shadow, animus and external entities of a more shall we say, &#8216;ethereal&#8217; nature.<br />
Even a false belief in yourself or sheer disbelief in the existence of something weakens it, if you&#8217;re pig-headed enough.</p>
<p>The ego serves to focus will. Some of the egoistic people may demonstrate all the symptoms you mentioned as form-identity but its precisely that which allows them to accomplish incredible things. Sure their vision is short-sighted, selfish even but some of their actions can lead to greater good both intentionally and unintentionally.</p>
<p>A weakened ego, will only lead to depression.<br />
I do not disagree that there MUST be transformation from an unaware ego state to a true self state and a transcendent state beyond but there is significant risk and truth in that you can stay lost if you lose yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: the art of war</title>
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		<dc:creator>the art of war</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;the art of war...&lt;/strong&gt;

...He wrote that . . ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>the art of war&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;He wrote that . . &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: How to Be Happier &#124; The BridgeMaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Be Happier &#124; The BridgeMaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lola Fayemi / Nourishment for your spiritual awakening</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola Fayemi / Nourishment for your spiritual awakening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Evelyn

Great post and such an important part of the path.  I completely agree with your point that some spiritual seekers end up giving up one ego based form identity for another.

The most painful form identity I continue to let go of is the identity of my parents.  This was the one which left me feeling lost for a while.  Lost but incredibly free!

In peace and prosperity

Lola</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evelyn</p>
<p>Great post and such an important part of the path.  I completely agree with your point that some spiritual seekers end up giving up one ego based form identity for another.</p>
<p>The most painful form identity I continue to let go of is the identity of my parents.  This was the one which left me feeling lost for a while.  Lost but incredibly free!</p>
<p>In peace and prosperity</p>
<p>Lola</p>
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		<title>By: colette</title>
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		<dc:creator>colette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi I read something somewhere that (I guess my ego is telling may sound airy fairy but seems to help) that  we should try and ask our self if what we do or what we think is out of fear and not love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi I read something somewhere that (I guess my ego is telling may sound airy fairy but seems to help) that  we should try and ask our self if what we do or what we think is out of fear and not love.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You never found any reasons to examine them until now.&quot; One of my professors said that we never really change until the change we need to make is less painful than staying where we are....
I am needing to learn to mask my own feelings and to block absorption of others feelings - I am learning from a medical intuitive that I sponge up other people&#039;s feelings and then attempt to take care of them for them....I have done this all of my life and with people in so much confusion and pain right now my emotions bucket is overflowing.  I am letting go one day at a time....The pain is so great I must make the change - now at 60 I must learn how not to do this.
Very interesting post...as the young boy in the Highest Tide book said: &quot;God is asking us to see - to be aware&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You never found any reasons to examine them until now.&#8221; One of my professors said that we never really change until the change we need to make is less painful than staying where we are&#8230;.<br />
I am needing to learn to mask my own feelings and to block absorption of others feelings &#8211; I am learning from a medical intuitive that I sponge up other people&#8217;s feelings and then attempt to take care of them for them&#8230;.I have done this all of my life and with people in so much confusion and pain right now my emotions bucket is overflowing.  I am letting go one day at a time&#8230;.The pain is so great I must make the change &#8211; now at 60 I must learn how not to do this.<br />
Very interesting post&#8230;as the young boy in the Highest Tide book said: &#8220;God is asking us to see &#8211; to be aware&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evita,

What a surprise!  I&#039;m honored that you came over to my blog for a visit even though you are in the midst of a &quot;I CAN DO IT&quot; seminar and obviously busy. 

My opinion is that Eckhart Tolle articulated beautifully the things we already know intuitively.  However due to our crowded minds, we had difficulty ourselves nailing these down; and so it was that we were in the illusion of suffering.  

Me too.  I also got sick of being on an emotional roller coaster.  I like your B.C. age definition...it&#039;s right on!  I seem to be gaining more and more from my meditation these days, being in the now, and letting go my ego-identifications.  The result is peace.  

It&#039;s great that we are on the same journey!  I wish you continued peace, joy, love and light.

Evelyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evita,</p>
<p>What a surprise!  I&#8217;m honored that you came over to my blog for a visit even though you are in the midst of a &#8220;I CAN DO IT&#8221; seminar and obviously busy. </p>
<p>My opinion is that Eckhart Tolle articulated beautifully the things we already know intuitively.  However due to our crowded minds, we had difficulty ourselves nailing these down; and so it was that we were in the illusion of suffering.  </p>
<p>Me too.  I also got sick of being on an emotional roller coaster.  I like your B.C. age definition&#8230;it&#8217;s right on!  I seem to be gaining more and more from my meditation these days, being in the now, and letting go my ego-identifications.  The result is peace.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that we are on the same journey!  I wish you continued peace, joy, love and light.</p>
<p>Evelyn</p>
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		<title>By: Evita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evelyn this is such a beautiful and powerful series!

I think my transformation of this nature came a lot through the help of the &quot;A New Earth&quot; book by Eckhart Tolle. It just all made so much sense, the ego, the pain body, the form identification...

For me it was not that that book changed me, but it reinforced and helped me understand what I was living. I understood where my present peace came from and where my past distress came from. I understood more about others too in letting them be who they are and not judging as Kristi above said, for many around us are tied to many forms and false identities.

So what did it for me? I guess I was just sick and tired of being on the roller coaster of life in the B.C. age (before consciousness) :)
There were always those ups and downs of extreme happiness and extreme sadness, until I let consciousness in, started to own my thoughts, own the present moment and realize that I am nothing more at any moment than the &quot;I am&quot;. I don&#039;t need to identify with any thought, event, emotion or thing - they were not me and I was not them. And I have to say it has been a very smooth ride since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evelyn this is such a beautiful and powerful series!</p>
<p>I think my transformation of this nature came a lot through the help of the &#8220;A New Earth&#8221; book by Eckhart Tolle. It just all made so much sense, the ego, the pain body, the form identification&#8230;</p>
<p>For me it was not that that book changed me, but it reinforced and helped me understand what I was living. I understood where my present peace came from and where my past distress came from. I understood more about others too in letting them be who they are and not judging as Kristi above said, for many around us are tied to many forms and false identities.</p>
<p>So what did it for me? I guess I was just sick and tired of being on the roller coaster of life in the B.C. age (before consciousness) <img src='http://www.abundancetapestry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
There were always those ups and downs of extreme happiness and extreme sadness, until I let consciousness in, started to own my thoughts, own the present moment and realize that I am nothing more at any moment than the &#8220;I am&#8221;. I don&#8217;t need to identify with any thought, event, emotion or thing &#8211; they were not me and I was not them. And I have to say it has been a very smooth ride since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joshua, thank you for posting the video links.  Yes, they are highly inspirational. 

@Victor, I think that there may be well be some people who know that they are wearing masks but feel that they cannot afford to take theirs down.  So in a sense, to these people, the masks are hardly subtle. The risk of not being socially accepted is just too high!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joshua, thank you for posting the video links.  Yes, they are highly inspirational. </p>
<p>@Victor, I think that there may be well be some people who know that they are wearing masks but feel that they cannot afford to take theirs down.  So in a sense, to these people, the masks are hardly subtle. The risk of not being socially accepted is just too high!</p>
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